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spot lights
Topic Started: Mar 16 2013, 06:10 PM (1,987 Views)
trucker19780
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hi, im wanting to fit spot lights to my van, but everyone one ive spoke to at my local dealer says i cant as it will affect the body computer, is there any way i can get round this?
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ive fitted plenty to mine... just taken a feed from existing lights to a relay.

you may get the lamp out warning light on dash, but thats the worst of it
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Mar 16 2013, 07:36 PM
ive fitted plenty to mine... just taken a feed from existing lights to a relay.

you may get the lamp out warning light on dash, but thats the worst of it
Hi Andy
the newer vans have got Can-bus and if you take wiring from existing wiring then it can burn out the
can-bus units, and you won't get a lamp out warning as you have added more load. so never add to
can-bus just like that, it could be expensive to repair.

To Trucker ! if you want to add Spots it can be done, but you would need a VERY low current relay
or some form of electronic switch to trigger a bigger relay (transistor) and then wire all back to the battery.

There is a easy way, http://www.towsure.com/product/Single_Bypass_Relay but you would need to
use this to feed a normal high amp relay, and again as I say connect direct to the battery.

Radiotwo
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sounds like it would be easier to take it to an auto sparky, it was fairly easy to do on our other vans but this one im ready to give up lol

but i will look into these relays radio two, and see if i can get my head round it
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trucker19780
Mar 17 2013, 04:15 PM
sounds like it would be easier to take it to an auto sparky, it was fairly easy to do on our other vans but this one im ready to give up lol

but i will look into these relays radio two, and see if i can get my head round it
Where abouts are you ?

If you know what you are doing very easy, but a Auto Spark will charge a fortune

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Mar 17 2013, 01:04 PM
Andy™
Mar 16 2013, 07:36 PM
ive fitted plenty to mine... just taken a feed from existing lights to a relay.

you may get the lamp out warning light on dash, but thats the worst of it
Hi Andy
the newer vans have got Can-bus and if you take wiring from existing wiring then it can burn out the
can-bus units, and you won't get a lamp out warning as you have added more load. so never add to
can-bus just like that, it could be expensive to repair.

To Trucker ! if you want to add Spots it can be done, but you would need a VERY low current relay
or some form of electronic switch to trigger a bigger relay (transistor) and then wire all back to the battery.

There is a easy way, http://www.towsure.com/product/Single_Bypass_Relay but you would need to
use this to feed a normal high amp relay, and again as I say connect direct to the battery.

Radiotwo
been over 5 years since ive added extra relays to work additional lights, never had any problems

the lamp out warning on mine is probably the HID's
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Andy™
Mar 17 2013, 07:29 PM
radiotwo
Mar 17 2013, 01:04 PM
Andy™
Mar 16 2013, 07:36 PM
ive fitted plenty to mine... just taken a feed from existing lights to a relay.

you may get the lamp out warning light on dash, but thats the worst of it
Hi Andy
the newer vans have got Can-bus and if you take wiring from existing wiring then it can burn out the
can-bus units, and you won't get a lamp out warning as you have added more load. so never add to
can-bus just like that, it could be expensive to repair.

To Trucker ! if you want to add Spots it can be done, but you would need a VERY low current relay
or some form of electronic switch to trigger a bigger relay (transistor) and then wire all back to the battery.

There is a easy way, http://www.towsure.com/product/Single_Bypass_Relay but you would need to
use this to feed a normal high amp relay, and again as I say connect direct to the battery.

Radiotwo
been over 5 years since ive added extra relays to work additional lights, never had any problems

the lamp out warning on mine is probably the HID's
Hi Andy

That's why you have had no problems, as five years ago they poss did not have Can-Bus on vans in fact not many
cars had it, but every thing has them now even Trucks.

But yes if you put HID's on can-bus it will show up as a light out, but the point is you are not actually not adding
extra load to the circuit but less, that's why you can get can bus hid systems now to fool the electronics.

But you must never add extra load to a can bus circuit

Radiotwo
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Mar 17 2013, 08:42 PM
Hi Andy

That's why you have had no problems, as five years ago they poss did not have Can-Bus on vans in fact not many
cars had it, but every thing has them now even Trucks.

But yes if you put HID's on can-bus it will show up as a light out, but the point is you are not actually not adding
extra load to the circuit but less, that's why you can get can bus hid systems now to fool the electronics.

But you must never add extra load to a can bus circuit

Radiotwo
the van does have canbus. (57)

the HID's are less load (35w compared to 55w, although even the 55w will show up as a fault), but there is a relay connected to both indicators, main beam and side lights.
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I have had HID fitted for over a year now, no issues with any bulb warnings.
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Mar 17 2013, 09:35 PM
radiotwo
Mar 17 2013, 08:42 PM
Hi Andy

That's why you have had no problems, as five years ago they poss did not have Can-Bus on vans in fact not many
cars had it, but every thing has them now even Trucks.

But yes if you put HID's on can-bus it will show up as a light out, but the point is you are not actually not adding
extra load to the circuit but less, that's why you can get can bus hid systems now to fool the electronics.

But you must never add extra load to a can bus circuit

Radiotwo
the van does have canbus. (57)

the HID's are less load (35w compared to 55w, although even the 55w will show up as a fault), but there is a relay connected to both indicators, main beam and side lights.
Hi Again

"the HID's are less load (35w compared to 55w, although even the 55w will show up as a fault), but there is a relay connected to both indicators, main beam and side lights."

I am not sure what you are trying to say !

Yes both 35 and 55 w HID's are less load than a normal 55w tungsten lamp.but what relay is connected to both indicators, main beam,and side lights ?

and to Sudish, most of the newer HID kits have a built in device to fool the can bus that it is a normal lamp, I have just fitted some to my latest van but I got the ones that would work with can bus.

Radiotwo
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Mar 17 2013, 10:35 PM
Andy™
Mar 17 2013, 09:35 PM
radiotwo
Mar 17 2013, 08:42 PM
Hi Andy

That's why you have had no problems, as five years ago they poss did not have Can-Bus on vans in fact not many
cars had it, but every thing has them now even Trucks.

But yes if you put HID's on can-bus it will show up as a light out, but the point is you are not actually not adding
extra load to the circuit but less, that's why you can get can bus hid systems now to fool the electronics.

But you must never add extra load to a can bus circuit

Radiotwo
the van does have canbus. (57)

the HID's are less load (35w compared to 55w, although even the 55w will show up as a fault), but there is a relay connected to both indicators, main beam and side lights.
Hi Again

"the HID's are less load (35w compared to 55w, although even the 55w will show up as a fault), but there is a relay connected to both indicators, main beam and side lights."

I am not sure what you are trying to say !

Yes both 35 and 55 w HID's are less load than a normal 55w tungsten lamp.but what relay is connected to both indicators, main beam,and side lights ?

and to Sudish, most of the newer HID kits have a built in device to fool the can bus that it is a normal lamp, I have just fitted some to my latest van but I got the ones that would work with can bus.

Radiotwo
i have additional indicators on the back / side lights / front spots lights, all connected via relays operated from existing lights
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