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Engine vibration; engine vibration
Topic Started: Mar 17 2013, 12:04 PM (4,233 Views)
mikeandvan
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Hi all, just got my second daily, a 35s14 3.0L 2006 model, with 158k on clock. Bought it last week and I noticed steering wheel vibrating at 60 - 70 mph, took it for a full service - they said it was propshaft - but to leave it for now 'see how it goes' etc. That was after only driving it for one day - it had a bit of 'mayo' under oil cap so I worried it might have head gasket probs - garage did a sniff test and said it was ok, but I've heard these aren't as reliable for diesel engines. But my main gripe is the engine vibration - you feel it in steering wheel (especially when stationary - waiting at lights etc, you even feel it in your feet through the floor of the van. What I am asking is does anyone else experience this vibration with the 3.0Ls?? is it the extra horsepower? Or is it a sign of an engine prob? could it be connected to the 'mayo' under the oil cap. The garage said no real signs of gasket failure.
Edited by mikeandvan, Mar 17 2013, 08:14 PM.
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The mayo could just be a sign of short journeys, if the oil rarely gets up to temperature moisture can build up and cause a little mayo.

Vibration, check the weights that are stuck to the propshaft. Its possible one or more could have come off. Also I have heard if you disconnect it from the gearbox or diff, it would be marked so you can reattach at the same position i.e not 90 degrees off.

Six gears shouldn't really be an issue, I think generally you'll find there are just small gaps between the gears rather than being geared higher overall. You may find you can comfortable drive it first to third, and third to fifth. I can drive my 5 spd Transit quite comfortably like this, but my 5 spd Iveco finds it a bit of a stretch.

Regarding the ride, check the rear suspension as tired springs can cause the rear to sag and sit on or very close to the bumpstops. Worn cab mounts (rubber) between the chassis rails and the cab can also cause everything to crash about a bit over the bumps.
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Hi,

If you have engine vibrations then it is a serious matter, it is possible that your vehicle to be equipped with dual-mass flywheel and this can be faulty.

A malfunction of the engine (runs in three cylinders) it should be signaled by the warning lamp/injector lamp and associated with loss of power.
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Bazil-S
Mar 17 2013, 04:43 PM

there is no loss of power, just vibration, no warning lights either,how can my garage check for dual mass flywheel failure? thanks.
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Engine vibration may be from irregular operation (misfire) or may be from unbalance. So the first reason falls, remains the unbalance engine, wich in the most common case is the flywheel.
I do not know to tell you how to check the flywheel, to be sure the gearbox and clutch must be removed. The engine is not allowed to jumps from side to side at idle speed, it must runs smoothly.
If those in your garage are experienced technicians, it is enough to tell them it is possible to have dual mass flywheel, they know what to check.
Another possibility is that one, or both engine mounts to be broken, but I thought it was already checked.
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Thanks, I just did a bit of research, and came up with this, seeing as theres no apparent loss of power ( I am new to the van but it feels very strong) or overheating then propshaft issues would seem to be the one to follow through.

A damaged drive shaft can cause the vehicle to vibrate. The entire vehicle or parts of it--especially the floorboards--may shake and tremble, and the vibration will often intensify and worsen at increased speed. Severe vibrations can also indicate a bad tire; however, vibrations from tire problems usually happen during acceleration, whereas drive shaft problems cause vibration when the vehicle is moving or stationary.

These are exactly the issues I am having, so thankyoufor pointing me towards this.
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If it shakes at idle when stationary then the propshaft is not at fault, if it was unbalanced (or bearings/UJs worn) it would only show when you are driving. Apologies I didn't read your first post properly :)
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Mar 19 2013, 12:53 PM
If it shakes at idle when stationary then the propshaft is not at fault, if it was unbalanced (or bearings/UJs worn) it would only show when you are driving. Apologies I didn't read your first post properly :)
emm, what can this be then? does it mean the engine is ****ed! because I let van idle, then opened bonnet and the engine was vibtrating quite a lot, you feel it in steering wheel, and dashboard, any ideas on this? But again, no loss of power, no injectors warning signs. Thanks,mike.
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Check engine mounts, including the one under the gearbox. Bazil mentioned a miss fire or knackered flywheel as well.

The reason the prop will not be at fault is it only turns when the van is in motion, not when stationary and idling.

Be sure to let us know what the problem is when you find out!
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Mar 19 2013, 08:21 PM
Check engine mounts, including the one under the gearbox. Bazil mentioned a miss fire or knackered flywheel as well.

The reason the prop will not be at fault is it only turns when the van is in motion, not when stationary and idling.

Be sure to let us know what the problem is when you find out!
bought it to garage today. Mechanic just came out front and looked at it. Turned engine on,opened bonnet,he reckoned it was not unusual, they have a fleet of iveco trucks and he said they're much worse (though understandable with trucks). He said engine mounts fine, I mean they did just service it and they are a reputable garage - they do breakdown work for major companies,aa rac, etc,so I trust them, so I guess we'll just leave it at that and see how long I can tolerate this hunk of misery!
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I mean they did just service it and they are a reputable garage

Could be that they don't want to spend the time chasing something that isn't a quick easy job. Take it somewhere else and get a second opinion!

Or take a quick video on your phone and post it on youtube for us to see!
Edited by Spooky_b329, Mar 22 2013, 08:05 PM.
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Spooky_b329
Mar 22 2013, 08:05 PM
I mean they did just service it and they are a reputable garage

Could be that they don't want to spend the time chasing something that isn't a quick easy job. Take it somewhere else and get a second opinion!

Or take a quick video on your phone and post it on youtube for us to see!
they did actually tell me if I wanted a second opionoin to take it to the iveco dealership close by, which I will do next week, should mention it also judders slightly in reverse.
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Been following this with interest and my monies on dual mass flywheel , hope you get it sorted van certainly shouldnt be uncomfortable as you describe it. Paul
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Hi all, been driving the van for about a month now I guess since it was in garage and serviced, and lo and behold I check water level today and its at min! Obviously they would have filled it when they serviced it, so its lost a lot of water over past few weeks. Taking it to the garage again on friday, any ideas? Again, no over heating, just a bit of mayo under oil cap, what I've already stated above. Been running fine, do mostly local work, the odd 200 mile drive. My old daily never needed the water topping up in 2 years! ( not by me anyway, they probably checked it when it was serviced every 6 months).
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Mar 26 2013, 09:39 PM
Hi all, been driving the van for about a month now I guess since it was in garage and serviced, and lo and behold I check water level today and its at min! Obviously they would have filled it when they serviced it, so its lost a lot of water over past few weeks. Taking it to the garage again on friday, any ideas? Again, no over heating, just a bit of mayo under oil cap, what I've already stated above. Been running fine, do mostly local work, the odd 200 mile drive. My old daily never needed the water topping up in 2 years! ( not by me anyway, they probably checked it when it was serviced every 6 months).
Hi all, been driving the van for about a month now I guess since it was in garage and serviced, and lo and behold I check water level today and its at min! Obviously they would have filled it when they serviced it, so its lost a lot of water over past few weeks. Taking it to the garage again on friday, any ideas? Again, no over heating, just a bit of mayo under oil cap, what I've already stated above. Been running fine, do mostly local work, the odd 200 mile drive. My old daily never needed the water topping up in 2 years! ( not by me anyway, they probably checked it when it was serviced every 6 months).
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