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Sitting low,leaf spring info; will twin wheel springs fit single wheel
Topic Started: Aug 28 2015, 02:36 PM (857 Views)
needy
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Hi All

got a 3rd Gen 35s that has been converted into a camper / racevan that now sits low on the back
so question is :-

Will the twin wheel or tipper 35c 40c 45c 50c leaf springs fit on the single wheel , reason im asking is that for the twin and tipper you can buy a 7 leaf spring

Thanks
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plumber john
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I can't answer your question but I had the same issue and one of my springs ended up snapping!

I replaced the single springs to a double leaf spring from 'midland road spring' now my camper sits nice and rides a lot better now.. Cost around 300 quid with bushes all ready fitted to the new springs..

Took a day to fit, did them on my drive..

Only problem was the brake load sensor needed to be bypassed cause it was acting like the van was empty and the back brakes where hardly working..

John
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Aug 28 2015, 04:31 PM
I can't answer your question but I had the same issue and one of my springs ended up snapping!

I replaced the single springs to a double leaf spring from 'midland road spring' now my camper sits nice and rides a lot better now.. Cost around 300 quid with bushes all ready fitted to the new springs..

Took a day to fit, did them on my drive..

Only problem was the brake load sensor needed to be bypassed cause it was acting like the van was empty and the back brakes where hardly working..

John
Hi John

Thanks so much for the reply

I have had the same thing one of my springs have snapped and I have been looking on ebay and "found midland road springs" and there heavy duty double leaf springs

I am also looking at doing the job on the drive and was also thinking of getting new bolts ready to fit as I can see me having to cut off the old bolts ( the ones either end of the springs ) the new ones for £300 comes with new U bolts which is good

One other question did the new springs lift the van up in the air ?????

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Tony

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You won't need new sping eye bolts, they are strong and can be used again no problem, it's just shifting them that's the problem, I had to use a blow torch to heat them up and a long breaker bar to get the buggers off!

The new springs come with new U bolts, the old ones break as you try to undo them, I had to use heat on these to free them from the shocker mounts as the had rusted in to the holes..

I used a couple of bottle jacks to manuover the new springs in to place, whilst having the van on axle stands..

John

Ps: no doesn't sit to high, it's just right, nice and strong also..
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Only problem was the brake load sensor needed to be bypassed cause it was acting like the van was empty and the back brakes where hardly working..


By passing is not a good idea as it may invalidate you insurance and is a MOT FAIL !! You should be able to modify the linkage to match the new springs

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It was when it went in for Mot that it was brought to my attention and it failed on the back breaks, it was the Mot tester who did the by pass and then passed it after.. So god knows.. Now my breaks are great :'(
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Reason for rejection (i.e. Fail) from Testers manual

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Evidence that a load sensing valve has been removed or disconnected from a vehicle where it is known to have been fitted as standard.



Sad state of affairs when MOT tester would even consider bypassing Load valve as being acceptable.


Interesting what take your insures take when you notify them (as will be required )

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I've possibly used the wrong termination to describe what's been done to my load sensing valve, looking at it, it is still on the vehicle and has had a bracket attached to hold it in the fully loaded position, so maybe it is more of a modification? The van is a camper conversion and runs 3275kg always! It's not insured as a camper as it's not been registered with DVLA as one, it's insured as a specialist vehicle on my paperwork, you are right though: all modifications to the vehicle would need to be notified to your insurer inc: spring upgrades, which I did and it made no difference to cost etc, even something as simple as decals or sign writing must be notified to your insurer or it could invalidate your insurance..

Back to the original subject: Well worth the upgrade on the twin leaf springs, especially for campers with the constant load they carry..

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Hi John

while I agree that the load valve is in practice not needed as the vehicle is in effect full laden all the time, I still feel it would have been more sensible just to modify the linkage to get the same effect but keep the system intact.

Cheers Aidan
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if you don't use the system, get rid of it.
The fewer parts the more reliable.
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